In this thought-provoking episode of Passion Struck, John R. Miles sits down with Dr. Samuel Wilkinson to explore one of lifeโs most profound questions: Is existence a test of good and evil? Dr. Wilkinson, a psychiatrist and professor at the Yale School of Medicine, brings a unique perspectiveโone rooted in both science and spirituality.
Drawing from his groundbreaking book, Purpose: What Evolution and Human Nature Imply about the Meaning of Our Existence, Sam challenges the notion that evolution and faith are at odds. Instead, he reveals how understanding human nature can illuminate our search for purpose, the struggle between our better and darker selves, and why life may indeed be a test of moral character. This episode is a deep dive into the intersection of biology, belief, and the timeless battle between good and evil.
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“Faith and science donโt have to be in conflict. When we look deeper, we find patterns and meaning that point to something beyond randomness.”
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Why Life Is a Test of Good and Evil with Dr. Samuel Wilkinson
In this captivating episode of Passion Struck, Dr. Samuel Wilkinson joins John R. Miles for a profound exploration of human nature, morality, and the search for meaning. The conversation delves into the complex relationship between evolution and faith, shedding light on how these forces shape our behavior, relationships, and sense of purpose. Dr. Wilkinson discusses the duality within us allโthe constant push and pull between our altruistic instincts and selfish desiresโframing life as a moral test where our everyday choices define who we become. From the crisis of meaning in modern society to the crucial role of family and relationships, this episode offers a powerful reflection on what it means to live a life of intention and integrity.
What Youโll Learn in This Episode With Samuel Wilkinson:
- The dual nature of human beings: Dr. Wilkinson explains how we are biologically wired for both cooperation and competition, and how understanding this duality helps us navigate moral choices.
- Evolution and purpose: A thought-provoking discussion on how evolutionary processes, rather than being purely random, may point to deeper patterns of meaning and intentionality.
- The crisis of meaning in modern life: Why technology, isolation, and the breakdown of family structures contribute to a growing sense of purposelessness.
- Micro choices and moral character: How the small, daily decisions we make ultimately shape our character and determine whether we lean toward good or evil.
- The role of relationships in finding purpose: Dr. Wilkinson emphasizes the fundamental importance of family bonds and meaningful relationships in cultivating a fulfilling life.
- Everyday heroes and moral beauty: A look at how simple acts of service and moral courage define true heroism.
WHY IS THIS EPISODE WITH SAMUEL WILKINSON A MUST-LISTEN?
This episode challenges you to reflect on the deeper forces at play in your life. Are you making intentional choices that align with your values, or are you being unconsciously pulled by your instincts? Dr. Wilkinsonโs insights push listeners to consider how evolution, faith, and morality intersectโand why the battle between good and evil isn’t just a philosophical concept but a lived experience. If you’re seeking clarity on how to live a life of purpose and integrity, this conversation is both eye-opening and deeply motivating.
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The Interplay of Family, Relationships, Faith, and Evolution
During this eye-opening Passion Struck Podcast interview, Dr. Samuel Wilkinson explored the profound connection between family, relationships, faith, and evolution โ and how these forces work together to shape our sense of purpose. Drawing from his book, Purpose: What Evolution and Human Nature Imply about the Meaning of Our Existence, Dr. Wilkinson sheds light on how human behavior is deeply influenced by both biological instincts and spiritual beliefs, forming a complex web that defines who we are and what we strive for.

At the heart of the conversation was the idea that relationships โ particularly family bonds โ are not just social constructs but evolutionary necessities. Dr. Wilkinson explained that from an evolutionary standpoint, humans have always relied on close-knit groups for survival. The instinct to form attachments, protect loved ones, and seek community stems from our need to pass on genetic material and ensure the continuation of our species. But, as he pointed out, evolution doesnโt stop at survival โ it also carves pathways for deeper meaning and moral growth.
Faith adds another layer to this dynamic. Dr. Wilkinson discussed how faith traditions across cultures often emphasize the importance of family and community, reinforcing behaviors that foster cooperation, empathy, and long-term thinking. He argued that religious practices frequently mirror evolutionary patterns, encouraging us to prioritize the collective good over individual desires. However, he also acknowledged the tension many feel between faith and evolution โ a struggle he personally experienced during medical school โ but emphasized that these forces donโt have to be in opposition. Instead, they can complement each other, with evolution explaining how we got here and faith guiding us on how to live with purpose.
A particularly striking point Dr. Wilkinson made was about the crisis of meaning in modern society. He highlighted how the breakdown of family structures, the rise of technology, and increasing social isolation have created a vacuum โ one where people struggle to find purpose without the anchoring forces of strong relationships and spiritual grounding. According to him, this disconnection has left many vulnerable to nihilism and despair.
Ultimately, Dr. Wilkinson stressed that living a purposeful life requires nurturing both our evolutionary instincts for connection and our spiritual yearning for meaning. Itโs about recognizing that while evolution may have shaped our capacity for love, empathy, and cooperation, itโs our faith, values, and daily choices that determine whether we lean toward good or evil.
This powerful intersection of science and spirituality encourages listeners to reflect: Are you investing in the relationships that matter most? Are you allowing faith โ in whatever form resonates with you โ to guide your moral compass? Dr. Wilkinson’s insights remind us that purpose isnโt just an abstract idea โ itโs forged in the everyday moments of love, sacrifice, and intentional living.
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About Todayโs Guest, Samuel Wilkinson

Dr. Sam Wilkinson is a psychiatrist, researcher, and author known for his work at the intersection of mental health, human nature, and purpose. He is an Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Yale University, where he focuses on treatment-resistant depression, neuromodulation, and the broader psychological and philosophical questions surrounding human existence.
Dr. Wilkinson is the author of Purpose: What Evolution and Human Nature Imply about the Meaning of Our Existence, a thought-provoking book that explores how evolutionary science and human behavior intertwine with our search for meaning. With a background that bridges science and spirituality, Dr. Wilkinson offers unique insights into how faith, relationships, and evolutionary patterns shape our lives.
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