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More From My Interview With Scott Barry Kaufman and Jordyn Feingold on Choose Growth

During the Passion Struck podcast interview, I asked Scott and Jordyn to share what they hoped readers would take away from Choose Growth.
Scott Barry Kaufman explains, “My answer is really almost like self-evident, It’s just really that one can choose growth. People don’t even realize that. They get caught in their loops. Right? They get caught every day. Like there’s a lot of learned helplessness. And a lot of this, by the way, I mean, we’re influenced by Martin Seligman’s seminal work on learned helplessness. Then how he went to learned hopefulness, which is where his work is at right now, as with our friend Dan Tomasulo.
He wrote an awesome book, which I wrote the foreword to called Learned Hopefulness. We want to instill a lot of learned hopefulness in people. If they’re in a life of learned helplessness, then I think that process is choosing the growth option.”
Jordyn Feingold explains, “I think my takeaway is twofold. One, we can’t do it alone. We have to invite and include others in the growth experience with us. Because we’re not solitary beings. We are deeply interdependent, and the needs for both connection and love as distinct needs very much both include other people and that it’s a journey of growth.
It is a journey without a destination. There is no definitive place we land when we say we’re done. All right, I’ve grown sufficiently I’m it’s time to stop, but that it’s a constant commitment and recommitment, and sometimes we have to take many steps back in order to reorient and get to the place where we’re going.”
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Resources From The Show With Scott Barry Kaufman and Jordyn Feingold
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- Transcend by Scotty Barry Kaufman
- Who created Maslow’s iconic pyramid?
- Website: https://scottbarrykaufman.com/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottbarrykaufman/
- Psychology Podcast: https://scottbarrykaufman.com/podcast/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/sbkaufman
- Website: http://positivepsychologyforphysicians.com/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JordynFeingold
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordynfeingold/
- My solo episode on Understanding the Value of Time: https://passionstruck.com/value-of-time-wisdom-of-the-stoics/
- My interview with Abigail Barnes on turning time into productivity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e9gBbUnENo
- My interview with Dr. Ayelet Fishbach on how you get things are done through the science of motivation: https://passionstruck.com/ayelet-fishbach-get-it-done-find-the-fun-path/
- My interview with Dr. Katy Milkman on the behavior science behind how we change: https://passionstruck.com/katy-milkman-behavior-change-for-good/
- My solo episode on why micro choices matter: https://passionstruck.com/why-your-micro-choices-determine-your-life/
- My solo episode on why you must feel to heal: https://passionstruck.com/why-you-must-feel-to-find-emotional-healing/
About Today’s Guests Scott Barry Kaufman and Jordyn Feingold

Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, Ph.D., is a cognitive scientist and humanistic psychologist exploring the depths of human potential. He is a professor at Columbia University and director of the Center for Human Potential. Dr. Kaufman has authored ten books and is the host of The Psychology Podcast.
Dr. Jordyn Feingold, MD, MAPP, MSCR, is a resident physician in psychiatry at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in NYC, a well-being researcher, and a positive psychology practitioner. Her research and clinical interests involve protecting and promoting healthcare worker and patient well-being and incorporating positive psychology approaches into healthcare delivery.
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