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Dr. Michelle Segar on Why We Need to Shift to the JOY CHOICE
Why micro choices are vital to make lasting behavior change

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Dr. Michelle Segar is an award-winning, NIH-funded sustainable behavior change researcher at the University of Michigan and a lifestyle coach. For nearly three decades, she has pioneered methods to create sustainable healthy behavior change that is being used to boost patient health, employee well-being, and gym membership retention.

On April 26th, she released her latest book The Joy Choice: How to Finally Achieve Lasting Changes in Eating and Exercise, which the Big Idea Club selected as one of their 22 books they cannot wait to read in 2022. She also wrote the bestselling book No Sweat: How the Simple Science of Motivation Can Bring You a Lifetime of Fitness. She is a sought-after expert and is frequently featured in major media like the New York Times, NPR, Forbes, and Prevention.

The best way we can create consistent choices so that we can stay on the path of lasting change is to know how to improvise.

Dr. Michelle Segar

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What I Discuss With Michelle Segar About The Joy Choice

  • Why we are taught how to start and stop behavior change but not sustain it.
  • Michelle’s passion for creating healthy behavior change.
  • Why the Joy Choice is about the power of micro choices we make every day.
  • Defuncting the myths about habit change
  • Why our life is like forever blowing bubbles.
  • How to learn to accept that being perfectly imperfect is the Joy Choice.
  • Overcoming the perfection rabbit hole.
  • Overcoming the Tornado of TODOs
  • The POP tool for enabling adult play.
  • The four core decision disruptors – Temptation, Rebellion, Accommodation, Perfection
  • The Wonder Women Effect.
  • Why we need to be giving grace
  • Have any questions, comments, or stories you’d like to share with us? Drop us a line at [email protected]m!
  • And much more…
135 | Why We Need to Shift to the Joy Choice | Dr. Michelle Segar | Passion Struck with John R. Miles
135 | Why We Need to Shift to the Joy Choice | Dr. Michelle Segar | Passion Struck with John R. Miles

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More About the Power of Micro Choices in The Joy Choicewith Dr. Michelle Segar

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In my discussion with Michelle Segar, I asked her about how in The Joy choice, she is really talking about this power of micro choice throughout it. I asked her to introduce the book through that lens.

Michelle responds, “Oh, I love that. Thank you for asking me that question. No one has asked me that question. And it’s so profound and is at the very core of why I wrote the book. I’m excited because you’re asking me to think about it in these really relevant and compelling ways,

The secret sauce to sustainable behavior change is the consistent choices that we make. Now, and now and now throughout our days, throughout our weeks, throughout our months, and years. If we want to achieve sustainable change, lasting change, where we need to put our attention is on these micro choices.

There’s so much automatic thinking. The first thing that we have to do if we want to create the conditions for sustainable change and consistent choice-making, is to have a drive and a will, that’s kind of a given. But if you have that, then we need to have the wherewithal at the moment to improvise. No matter how hard we plan, no matter how good our intentions, life just seems to throw those curveballs.

The best way we can create consistent choices so that we can stay on the path of lasting change is to know how to improvise.’

Thanks, Michelle Segar!

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About Today’s Guest Dr. Michelle Segar

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Michelle Segar consults with global health care organizations, advises the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and is frequently interviewed in sources like The New York Times. Her work identifies which messages and methods undermine or foster sustainable behavior change. Her insights on this topic come from over twenty years of integrating academic research with her experience as a health coach using a “motivate to maintain” methodology she developed and evaluated with NIH funding.

Segar’s new work integrates principles of Positive Organizational Scholarship with decision-making and marketing science to design new patient-centered systems and protocols that convert self-care, well-being, and healthy behaviors into top daily priorities among patients and employees.

She has a PhD in psychology and master’s degrees in health behavior/health education (MPH) and in kinesiology (MS) from the University of Michigan.

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