Jordan Harbinger (@jordanharbinger) on Why Building Your Legacy Is Greater Than Currency | Brought to you by Masterworks (https://www.masterworks.io/ code passion)
Jordan Harbinger is a Wall Street lawyer turned podcast interviewer with an approachable style and knack for securing high-profile guests. His podcast, The Jordan Harbinger Show, was selected as part of Apple’s “Best of 2018.”
A lot of people will tell you to scale something. They don’t know what that necessarily even means. It’s really hard to grow something when you grow something that’s not yours.
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What I Discuss With Jordan Harbinger
- The core values that shaped him as he grew up in Michigan
- The transition from attorney to becoming one of the earliest podcast hosts
- Why he doesn’t trade time for more money
- The importance of balance and shared experiences
- His thoughts on scaling the Jordan Harbinger Show
- Jordan’s focus on lifelong learning and impact
- Why building your legacy is greater than currency
- We confront the FOMO of interviewing high achievers
- Why he is called the ‘Larry King’ of Podcasting
- The significance of his interview with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky
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- And much more…
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More About Why Building Your Legacy is Greater Than Currency with Jordan Harbinger
Jordan and I discuss how we measure ourselves all the time, by the things that don’t really matter.
Jordan Harbinger explains, “I’m not a materialistic guy. My wife and I share a car, we just have one. I don’t have a Rolex watch. I don’t collect anything, other than dirty diapers. I don’t have a big giant plasma screen TV. I just don’t care about any of that at all. I like experiences more. I also don’t react well to like high levels of stress. I start losing sleep, I start getting really upset, and I get angry. My appetite either goes away or gets ridiculously out of control.
So I’m not my best self. You could say that under that much stress. So why do that in exchange for money that I can then use to buy things I know already I don’t want. A lot of people are in the delusion, that material things will make us happy. I’m not even under that delusion. I already know I don’t care about that stuff. So working harder to get access to it is the dumbest thing I can think of honestly.
I am not trying to fault people that love working and making money and collecting watches. Like cool. If that’s your thing, then great. I’m just not that guy.”
Building Your Legacy For Good
Because his show touches so many millions of people, I asked Jordan what lasting impact he wants to make on society.
Jordan Harbinger responds, “What moral responsibility do we have as broadcasters to use our influence for good? My two senses are if you can measure moral responsibility in terms of size, we have a large moral responsibility to do that. If I find it distasteful when an athlete gets caught in a Las Vegas brothel and says I didn’t ask to be a role model. Yeah, you did. You accepted the fact that you were going to play in the NBA and get a big check and be on TV.
So you did. You might reject that because you’re a crappy person who’s immature. But, you did accept it when you accepted the role of being in the spotlight and getting paid to do that. And that’s the way I look at it.
I can’t sit here and go, Yeah, I drop F-bombs and tell people that smoking isn’t that bad for you. And then drop out of school. I don’t say that either. I’m not saying Joe Rogan says that either. But you can’t go around being a bad influence. And then saying, man I didn’t ask for this. Well, are you cashing the checks? Because if you are, and you’re getting paid on ad impressions. You’ve been working hard to do that, You can’t promote your show and get big-name guests on your show as I do, and then go well, I didn’t ask you to listen.
No, I literally begged you to listen, by forcing it down your throat by advertising everywhere, doing media, and doing shows like Passion Struck.
The thing that I have to do is if I convinced your kids to listen to me, what I need to do is NOT feed them chocolate chip cookies, I need to feed them something healthy. And the reason for that is because otherwise if you’re not, you’re doing damage to society. And is that the legacy you want to leave behind? I mean, that’s what you got to ask yourself. For me, legacy is greater than currency, right? I turned down advertising deals for things like vape pens, even though they’ll pay a lot. Because I don’t think it’s good for people.
Sure, I could be wrong. But let’s assume that I’m right about vaping is bad for you, it’s probably not a huge leap. I don’t want to be a part of advancing that industry.”
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About Today’s Guest Jordan Harbinger
Jordan Harbinger is the host of The Jordan Harbinger Show where self-motivated people, just like you, dig deep into the untapped wisdom of the world’s sharpest minds — from legendary creators to intelligence operatives, and iconoclastic writers to visionary change-makers. He brings amazing stories and brilliant personalities to the table and helps you demystify what they do and how they do it. You’ll learn new strategies, perspectives, and tactics you won’t find anywhere else, so you can bring these valuable insights into your own life and live what you listen to.
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