Imagine that your thoughts, cravingsโeven your emotionsโarenโt entirely your own. That theyโre being driven by trillions of microscopic organisms living inside you. It sounds like science fiction, but in Episode 599 of Passion Struck, Dr. Steven Gundry explains why this is a scientific fact.
Dr. Gundry, a former cardiothoracic surgeon turned gut health expert, joined me to discuss his new book, The Gut-Brain Paradox and the profound connection between your digestive system and your mental state.
He puts it, “We are passengers on a bus driven by our microbiomeโand theyโve been at the wheel a lot longer than we have.”
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“Leaky gut is the hidden root of chronic disease, and most people have no idea theyโre walking around with it.”
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Dr. Steven Gundry on The Gut-Brain Paradox and How Your Microbiome Shapes Your Mind
In Episode 599, we dive into The Gut-Brain Paradox, Gundryโs groundbreaking framework for understanding how your microbiomeโthe trillions of bacteria living in your digestive tractโdirectly influences your mental clarity, immune system, and long-term vitality. He reveals how conditions like anxiety, brain fog, and autoimmune disease often originate not in your head, but in your gut lining.
Dr. Gundry also breaks down what leaky gut really is (and why so many people unknowingly suffer from it), the real reason your food cravings are so hard to control, and why he believes free will might be more of an illusion than we thinkโespecially when your gut bacteria are calling the shots.
This episode is both a deep dive into revolutionary health science and a practical roadmap to take back control of your energy, focus, and emotional resilienceโby starting with your gut.
What Youโll Learn in This Episode With Dr. Steven Gundry:
- Your Gut Runs the Show: Dr. Gundry explains how trillions of bacteria in your gut send messages that shape your thoughts, cravings, and emotional states.
- Leaky Gut Is Everywhere: If youโre battling fatigue, autoimmune disease, or mental fog, thereโs a high chance you have a leaky gutโand it’s reversible.
- Food as Medicine: Changing what you eat, including eliminating certain lectins and processed foods, can reverse chronic conditions like Parkinsonโs, anxiety, and more.
- Microbes vs. Free Will: The bacteria in your gut may be influencing your decisions more than your conscious mind.
- Beyond SSRIs: Many antidepressants work by altering the microbiome, not just serotonin levelsโa strong argument for gut-first mental health care.
WHY IS THIS EPISODE WITH DR. STEVEN GUNDRY A MUST-LISTEN?
This episode is a must-listen because it shatters some of the most deeply held assumptions about health, aging, and what we think keeps us energized and alive. Dr. Steven Gundry brings decades of clinical and surgical expertiseโplus a radical, research-backed perspectiveโto reveal how the gut, mitochondria, and certain “healthy” habits may actually be sabotaging our well-being.
If you care about living not just a long lifeโbut a vibrant, purposeful oneโthis episode will rewire the way you think about food, fatigue, and what it means to truly thrive.
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Is Your Gut Controlling Your Brain? What Dr. Steven Gundry Wants You to Know
What if your brain wasnโt calling the shots? In this fascinating conversation, Dr. Steven Gundry, renowned heart surgeon and bestselling author, joins Passion Struck to uncover a shocking truth: your gutโmore than your brainโmay be in charge of your decisions, your emotions, and even your health destiny.

One of the most eye-opening parts of the conversation centered around leaky gutโa condition where the gut lining becomes permeable, allowing bacteria and toxins to enter the bloodstream. According to Gundry, nearly every chronic disease he treats, from Parkinsonโs to autoimmune conditions, stems from this issue. Fixing the gut, he says, doesnโt just stop the symptomsโit can reverse the disease.
What does that healing process look like? It starts with removing inflammatory foodsโparticularly lectins found in wheat, corn, and other grainsโand reintroducing the good stuff: polyphenols, prebiotic fiber, and fermented foods. These nourish the good gut bacteria that regulate everything from metabolism to mood.
But Gundry takes it a step further. He argues that the microbes in our bodies donโt just help digest foodโthey shape our very identity. They influence our cravings, our motivation, even our risk-taking behavior. If youโve ever wondered why you canโt resist junk food or feel moody after a sugar binge, it might not be lack of willpower. It could be your gut bacteria calling the shots.
And in an era where mental health struggles are on the rise, Gundry offers a radical alternative to pharmaceuticals: start with the gut. He reveals that antidepressants like SSRIs often take weeks to work because they donโt just act on brain chemistryโthey alter the microbiome. Why not go straight to the source?
Throughout our conversation, Dr. Gundry blends ancient wisdom with cutting-edge science, reminding us that Hippocrates wasnโt wrong when he said, โAll disease begins in the gut.โ His latest research brings this concept into the modern world, showing that optimal health, both mental and physical, may begin with something as simpleโand profoundโas whatโs on your plate.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone struggling with brain fog, anxiety, low energy, or constant cravings. Itโs not just a health discussionโitโs a blueprint for reclaiming your biology and your mind.
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About Todayโs Guest, Dr. Steven Gundry

Dr. Steven Gundry is a world-renowned cardiothoracic surgeon, medical researcher, and New York Times bestselling author who has dedicated the second act of his career to studying the relationship between nutrition and human health. Once a pioneering heart surgeon, Dr. Gundry shifted his focus from operating rooms to root causes, helping people reclaim their vitality by healing the gut.
As the founder of the Gundry MD health brand and director of the International Heart and Lung Institute Center for Restorative Medicine, Dr. Gundry has become one of the leading voices in integrative and functional medicine. His groundbreaking booksโincluding The Plant Paradox, The Longevity Paradox, and Unlocking the Keto Codeโhave challenged conventional wisdom on food, aging, and inflammation.
Dr. Gundryโs work explores how the microbiome, leaky gut, and hidden dietary triggers contribute to diseaseโand how to reverse them. With over 20 years of clinical research and tens of thousands of patients helped, his mission is simple yet bold: to empower people to take back control of their health from the inside out.
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